Balancing blind / centreless wheels.

[ozzie]

Oi that post jumped in whilst I was doing mine that's the machine type but it's bigger at my mates.

[macplaxton]

Hope you don't mind Ozzie me peeling this chat off the Ena thread as it's probably more appropriate on it's own. It might be easier too, should anyone want to find it again.

There seems to have been a period in time in the 1960s/70s when on car balancing was the "in" thing. Certainly good for balancing up all the other out-of-balance hubs/driveshafts/etc. at the same time

I thought that Aussie Frogs thread might appeal to you. I used to balance motorcycle wheels up on a simple jig with a cup of tea and a B&H (or two).

Last time I paid 12 quid at a tyre place to fit my tyre it was 3 quid off, 3 quid valve, 3 quid balance and 3 quid on. Some places get the right arse fitting tyres bought from elsewhere. I can see their point, but the last bloke to mumble about "internet tyres" got given the "if YOU can supply it, I'll buy it" challenge and after a couple of calls conceded that he would fit and balance my own tyres.

[shaun]

Most tyre places when I was heavily involved in the tyre side of the trade had centreless wheel adapters because big companies like Peugeot designed an amazing hot hatch with centreless wheels (205 GTI 1.6), 1.9 had centre caps, Vauxhall decided to build Omega's with a centre cap held on by a 3 hole M8 adapter that sat a lug right where the centre cone would fit, and wouldn't allow it to locate flush.
So these and many others all needed balacing off the stud holes.
Thats without going down the 2CV avenue.

Nowadays pretty much every car maker has a nice hole in the middle so the centreless adaptaor just gathers dust.
Ozzie, if you can drop the wheels and leave them with me, I will blag a favour from the tyre lads and get them done for you, but it wouldn't be a 'while you wait'.

As for the 'on the car' that is so out of date now, and hardly anywhere does it, not even truck places.
Most truck places favoured the packet of balancing powder in the tyre when I stopped truck fitting, it was a feree rolling granule that 'balanced' the wheel and tyre all the way through its wear life, as it wasn't static.
As if you balance a tyre, as it wears it changes shape and depth and therefore loses its balance.

Glad I am out of that side of the trade now

[shaun]

Oh, and we will happily fit your own for £10+vat per wheel as long as they are new,
We wont fit part worns/second hand/previously owned anymore after a 3 hour visit from the police in which time they raped our paperwork for proof we fitted a specific second hand tyre on a customers car that he supplied

Turns out it blew out and nearly caused a serious accident, he instantly blamed us for fitting the tyre and in doing so we are legally responsible for the road worthiness of the tyre, therefore if they could prove we fitted that tyre to that car we were liable for the crappy condition of the tyre he supplied.

Luckily no serial numbers are recorded or put on reciepts so they couldn't prove it, stopped fitting part worns straight after that!!

As you all know, all second hand tyres that are sold must be marked on the sidewall with 'part worn' and you are then liable for any consequences.
I take it Essex daf's adheres to this??

Not sure on the age limit on part worns, but we aren't allowed to sell any new tyres that have gone past there 5 year shelf life.

[ozzie]

Can I have the old tyres please new but older than 5 years. I want them for barriers and art I promise. Not for road use.Please store them cool and dark.

[33grinder]

We don't sell tyres at Essex DAFs Shaun. We do sell wheels though and if they happen to have tyres then we go to great lengths to stress that the tyre comes for free but is not to be trusted on the road.

[macplaxton]

Mar 4, 2014 22:10:02 GMT shaun said:

for £10+vat per wheel

£12!

[spunkymonkey]

The part worn markings also only apply if they're sold as part of a "commercial operation" - private sales aren't covered by that part of the regs