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howard
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Track Rod End Tomfoolery May 27, 2012 12:21:00 GMT

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Post by howard on May 27, 2012 12:21:00 GMT

Had a look at my better half's 33 earlier which has somewhat floaty steering to say the least, around the midway point. And had started knocking in the straight-ahead position.

Problem quickly found to be a seized track rod end that ended up with an alarming amount of play rather quickly

Wow.

Anyway, no damage done but obviously I smugly advised her I have several new sets in my stash of parts. Five minute job, said I.

All the other ends I have which are marked as DAF 750, 31, 32, 33 are all identical but are somewhat larger than the originals:

The old one just cannot be removed (even with a splitter) but I have left it soaking in penetrating oil in the vain hope it may free itself without resorting to violence. So better photos will come when it releases itself!

My leg is very painful today so violence would be the easy route to take! Does anyone have any of the original joints (car is 1970) or should I just order a pair from Danny?

Many thanks!

Howard

macplaxton
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Track Rod End Tomfoolery May 27, 2012 13:44:16 GMT

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Post by macplaxton on May 27, 2012 13:44:16 GMT

Those replacement joints look perfectly fine to me. As long as the threads/tapers match I'd go ahead and fit them.

To separate the taper on the old one. Use a pair of BIG hammers. If it don't shift, find some BIGGER ones. ;D

1972 DAF 44 Estate. Just the one DAF, honest.

thebear54 DAF Nut Those who say it can't be done, should not interupt the people doing it ! Posts: 1,426	Track Rod End Tomfoolery May 27, 2012 22:30:14 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by thebear54 on May 27, 2012 22:30:14 GMT If a pair of big hammers don't work...get a pair of BIGGER hammers... if that still does not work...get the proper tool John ;D
	I suffer from CDPD- Compulsive DAF Purchasing Disorder, there is no cure! "Jobsworth Little Hitler"-At the DAF Club of America

spunkymonkey Administrator Potential latrine digger Posts: 1,076	Track Rod End Tomfoolery May 27, 2012 22:52:39 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by spunkymonkey on May 27, 2012 22:52:39 GMT Fork type joint splitter and hit it hard - I find about a 2 lb hammer usually does it The problem is finding a fork splitter that isn't too wide for these joints but they are out there!

macplaxton Technical Advisor Posts: 1,373	Track Rod End Tomfoolery May 28, 2012 6:59:39 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by macplaxton on May 28, 2012 6:59:39 GMT Pah, the proper tool is a BIG pair of 'ammers!
	1972 DAF 44 Estate. Just the one DAF, honest.

howard
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Track Rod End Tomfoolery May 28, 2012 8:05:05 GMT

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Post by howard on May 28, 2012 8:05:05 GMT

I've got a splitter, but it is just too wide - another solution will be tried tonight!

I did try a pair of big 'ammers, but as it's not my car I'm somewhat more restrained. I'll try again later. My leg seems a bit better today - I even ran into work today (well, part of the way!) as these days I find I really want to. Kill or cure seems only to have cured at the moment - touch wood!

macplaxton Technical Advisor Posts: 1,373	Track Rod End Tomfoolery May 28, 2012 9:09:42 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by macplaxton on May 28, 2012 9:09:42 GMT Easy Howard! Running even part of the way to work is madness ;D Get yourself a nice 60s Moulton and pedal in style...
	1972 DAF 44 Estate. Just the one DAF, honest.

spunkymonkey
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Track Rod End Tomfoolery May 28, 2012 12:05:21 GMT

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Post by spunkymonkey on May 28, 2012 12:05:21 GMT

May 28, 2012 8:05:05 GMT howard said:

I've got a splitter, but it is just too wide - another solution will be tried tonight!

I did try a pair of big 'ammers, but as it's not my car I'm somewhat more restrained. I'll try again later. My leg seems a bit better today - I even ran into work today (well, part of the way!) as these days I find I really want to. Kill or cure seems only to have cured at the moment - touch wood!

For the outer ones, a cheap crow-bar with a slot cut in the "straight" end works well. Cut the slot with an angle grinder so it just fits round the widest part of the taper pin (use the new joint as a guide). Then hammer like crazy on the bent end

It also works for the inner ones, but not as well because bodywork gets in the way.

mattsdafs Moderator 8 Dafs.. Posts: 1,007	Track Rod End Tomfoolery May 28, 2012 16:23:22 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by mattsdafs on May 28, 2012 16:23:22 GMT Howard... If all else fails,i have nos 1`s in.....er.....stock
	Put the kettle on..more tea needed. Can I buy another Daf yet..?..

howard Bigger Belter Posts: 179	Track Rod End Tomfoolery May 28, 2012 21:18:09 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by howard on May 28, 2012 21:18:09 GMT GOOD NEWS! We're all done! Splitter and BIG hammer did the trick!!! Thanks for your help and advice, guys My joints fit fine too! Yay!!!

Tuning Data
Model	Plugs gap	Points gap	Timing	In. valve	Ex. valve	Idle
33-> Jul'71	0.8mm	0.5mm	6 BTDC	0.1mm	0.15mm	725
33 Jul'71->	0.8mm	0.5mm	5 ATDC	0.1mm	0.15mm	900
44-> Jul'71	0.8mm	0.5mm	6 BTDC	0.1mm	0.15mm	725
44 Jul'71->	0.8mm	0.5mm	5 ATDC	0.1mm	0.15mm	900
55	0.6mm	0.5mm	TDC	0.15mm	0.20mm	700
55 Marathon	0.7mm	0.5mm	TDC	0.15mm	0.20mm	700
66 all 1108cc	0.7mm	0.5mm	TDC	0.15mm	0.20mm	725
66 1289cc	0.7mm	0.5mm	6 BTDC	0.15mm	0.20mm	725

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Track Rod End Tomfoolery

Post by howard on May 27, 2012 12:21:00 GMT

Post by macplaxton on May 27, 2012 13:44:16 GMT

Post by thebear54 on May 27, 2012 22:30:14 GMT

Post by spunkymonkey on May 27, 2012 22:52:39 GMT

Post by macplaxton on May 28, 2012 6:59:39 GMT

Post by howard on May 28, 2012 8:05:05 GMT

Post by macplaxton on May 28, 2012 9:09:42 GMT

Post by spunkymonkey on May 28, 2012 12:05:21 GMT

Post by mattsdafs on May 28, 2012 16:23:22 GMT

Post by howard on May 28, 2012 21:18:09 GMT