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Post by spunkymonkey on Jan 18, 2014 12:28:31 GMT
Hi Ozzie and welcome. Both of your theories make sense, but for a "normal" reg transfer there'd be no need to swap the chassis plate or rivet the old chassis number to the bulkhead. 33s also should have the number stamped directly into the bulkhead, NOT on an attached plate as appears to be the case in those photos. On all the A bodies there's a rivetted on chassis plate on the driver's inner wing (rivetted "upside-down" so it's more easily readable as you look over the wing). That shows model type, chassis number, gross weights etc. The chassis number is also stamped directly into the bulkhead above the heater and should, obviously, match the number on the inner wing plate. One other slight concern, looking at the photos on the DOC thread I linked earlier, is that it does't appear to have seat belts fitted (see here farm5.static.flickr.com/4136/4942108839_73e410c99d_o.jpg for large view of driver's door pillar) All cars first used after 1st Jan 1965 are required to have at least a diagonal belt on the driver's seat so, if that picture is as it seems, it should never have been passing MOTs! It still looks like an unusually good example of whatever it is, and is a very rare car in any case. Because DVLA appear to have accepted it as a '66 model 32, it will also have tax exempt status whether it's really entitled to it or not. But a little more background, or a suitably adjusted price, would be nice.
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Post by Ozzie on Jan 18, 2014 18:56:42 GMT
Thanks. He seems to have gone to ground. Oh well it's a shame if there is an explanation it could be ok it doesn't matter it's a 33 but I would really like a 32 the earlier the better or a yellow one. Do you know of one tax free though please as any newer wouldn't be right for our family and memories
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Post by Nick on Jan 18, 2014 19:46:35 GMT
if I had the cash id snap it up.. regardless of its pedigree its a stunning little car
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Post by Ozzie on Jan 18, 2014 20:44:40 GMT
Re the seat belts Anchorage points were obligatory from 1965 but lap belts were allowed until 3 point belts in 1968 were made mandatory I think but I am getting older and can't always remember everything. Doup .
Does any one know the story behind this car there isa reference to a previous owner. Can you piece it together for me.
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Post by spunkymonkey on Jan 18, 2014 21:53:42 GMT
I'm afraid I don't know the history and, as far as I'm aware, the car isn't really knnown to the Daf Owners Club either, so it's unlikely there'll be much info available. The first time I came across it was about 2 - 3 years ago when I was in the middle of returning Tilly the 32 to the road.
As far as I knew, Tilly was the only one known to be close to the road at the time, then this one turned up on the official DOC site in a few pictures. It was flagged as suspect at the time because of the "problems" we've been discussing here, but nthing much was said in public because, as far as we knew, the owner had it in good faith and it was a nice car anyway.
As for the belts, the original 1965 regs required a belt that restrained the driver's upper body (ie: shoulder belt but didn't need a lap one) but no other requirements, so lap belts were often fitted to the other seats. By '68 they'd realised that diagonal-only belts were a really really bad idea so changed the requirement for the driver's seat to 3-point.
Even then, there was no legal requirement for ny other belts (not even front passenger)to be fitted until 1981, although most, if not all, makers fitted to both sides in the front.
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Post by macplaxton on Jan 18, 2014 21:54:03 GMT
My notes says that Front anchorages where required to be fitted from 1st July 1964. Front belts then had to be fitted from 1st January 1965.
Front belts were at least required to be diagonal only. (as SM has said). Lap + Diagonal was mandatory from 1st April 1981.
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Post by macplaxton on Jan 18, 2014 21:57:16 GMT
Even then, there was no legal requirement for ny other belts (not even front passenger)to be fitted until 1981, although most, if not all, makers fitted to both sides in the front. I thought there was a requirement for the outer front passenger seat to be fitted with one? I used to own a Wolseley 16/60, and there was no issue sitting someone in the middle front seat without a belt.
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Post by 33grinder on Jan 18, 2014 22:00:10 GMT
Ozzie if your heart is set on a 32 then we have a car for sale at Essex DAFs but it is tatty and needs work.
The car being discussed in this thread is still a very nice car in its own right, even if there are certain irregularities.
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Post by Ozzie on Jan 18, 2014 23:13:13 GMT
Ozzie if your heart is set on a 32 then we have a car for sale at Essex DAFs but it is tatty and needs work. The car being discussed in this thread is still a very nice car in its own right, even if there are certain irregularities. Is it the white or cream one that I have seen on here? what parts would come with it? I am building a work shop right now and have a dead 2cv to rebuild for the wife. My beach buggy needs also doing and then my 1973 benford 3 ton dumper. I was looking for a runner that would last a few years until the others were done and then it could be done . I also need a Morris 1000 for my boy who is 8 next month . He wants a moggy good lad he is.
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Post by Ozzie on Jan 18, 2014 23:14:15 GMT
Go on then who's bid on my mota ? Laugh out loud
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